I am unclear where exactly we might even have the opportunity to "die for democracy"? Perhaps you will elaborate in the future?
Meanwhile, I wonder if you saw this comment in Paul Krugman's post of 3-7-25? It is very relevant to your opinion that SCOTUS might save us.
Kim Lane Scheppele
"Yeah, well, there's a few things about what's been happening in the last, I guess, six weeks into the Trump administration, as we're speaking. A couple of things that look exactly like what Orban did and a couple of things that are quite new, as I've looked at other countries. So what Orban did at the beginning, there were three things that enabled him to capture his government really fast. So one was that he moved very quickly to capture the Constitutional Court which was the referee of the whole process. And if you capture the refs and you can do all kinds of unconstitutional things and there's no one around to tell you. So now that was something Trump did in his first term. He's basically captured the refs. I'm talking to you Paul on the day after Trump's session, his joint session of Congress speech last night. And I don't know if you saw on the way out the door, the Supreme court only sent four judges this time, fewer than usual, but John Roberts was there and on the way out the door, Trump shakes his hand and says, “Thank you. Thank you again. I won't forget.” Okay? So that is, I mean, if it weren't evident already by the decisions of this court, particularly the immunity decision, which was outrageous, unprecedented, lawless, and just stunning, jaw-droppingly supportive of a lawless executive."
Hi Paul, I think you and I are 100% on the same page. If we lose an independent Supreme Court, we're cooked. Truly cooked, unless we resort to protest and civil disobedience for some time and, when that doesn't work, we have no option but withdrawal from this government. That is what I meant by willingness to die. If you and I move to Vermont and support a succession movement on the basis of the installation of arbitrary illegitimate unconstitutional federal government, declaring the independence of Vermont, if we can get support from others, we won't likely win. But we would be dying for a good and righteous cause, if we're willing to do so. That's what I meant.
I am unclear where exactly we might even have the opportunity to "die for democracy"? Perhaps you will elaborate in the future?
Meanwhile, I wonder if you saw this comment in Paul Krugman's post of 3-7-25? It is very relevant to your opinion that SCOTUS might save us.
Kim Lane Scheppele
"Yeah, well, there's a few things about what's been happening in the last, I guess, six weeks into the Trump administration, as we're speaking. A couple of things that look exactly like what Orban did and a couple of things that are quite new, as I've looked at other countries. So what Orban did at the beginning, there were three things that enabled him to capture his government really fast. So one was that he moved very quickly to capture the Constitutional Court which was the referee of the whole process. And if you capture the refs and you can do all kinds of unconstitutional things and there's no one around to tell you. So now that was something Trump did in his first term. He's basically captured the refs. I'm talking to you Paul on the day after Trump's session, his joint session of Congress speech last night. And I don't know if you saw on the way out the door, the Supreme court only sent four judges this time, fewer than usual, but John Roberts was there and on the way out the door, Trump shakes his hand and says, “Thank you. Thank you again. I won't forget.” Okay? So that is, I mean, if it weren't evident already by the decisions of this court, particularly the immunity decision, which was outrageous, unprecedented, lawless, and just stunning, jaw-droppingly supportive of a lawless executive."
Hi Paul, I think you and I are 100% on the same page. If we lose an independent Supreme Court, we're cooked. Truly cooked, unless we resort to protest and civil disobedience for some time and, when that doesn't work, we have no option but withdrawal from this government. That is what I meant by willingness to die. If you and I move to Vermont and support a succession movement on the basis of the installation of arbitrary illegitimate unconstitutional federal government, declaring the independence of Vermont, if we can get support from others, we won't likely win. But we would be dying for a good and righteous cause, if we're willing to do so. That's what I meant.